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-[[http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=200602191223.08676.cannam%40all-day-breakfast.com|Mail archive link]] - [[http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2006/02/0119.html|See also]] - "Having visions is easy" 
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-On Sunday 19 Feb 2006 00:38, Luis Garrido wrote: 
-> So what is your vision, then? 
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-I'm not sure I have a "vision", or at least not one that I understand 
-how to realise, which is probably why it isn't very well expressed in 
-Rosegarden. 
- 
-Traditional notation is a very useful thing in music learning, in 
-exchanging and publishing certain sorts of music in certain ways, and 
-in musicological contexts. MIDI and the like are very useful not just 
-for producing a finished piece of work (in some ways MIDI is rather 
-limiting for that) but for experimentation and "rough drafting". What 
-I want is to be able to start in either one of those areas and 
-incorporate the other, either to start with an existing score and 
-explore performance possibilities for it, or to start with a 
-performance and try to work out what makes it what it is. 
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-In other words, I'm not directly all that interested in either making 
-studio software or published scores. I'm interested in looking at and 
-editing music in symbolic terms for educational and exploratory 
-purposes. I would like to be able to see, study, and manipulate the 
-performance of a score, not just have it played to me, I would like to 
-be able to hear other people's interpretations while studying the same 
-score, I would like to be able to use linear track-style and other 
-block or structural editing operations to edit a score structure, and I 
-would like to be able to derive likely scores from performances and 
-experiments. 
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-I hope all this manages to sound at the same time sufficiently vague, 
-high-concept, and bleeding obvious. 
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-> Is there any commercial software you think succeeds in this? 
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-Sibelius is in fact the closest thing I know of, not so much because of 
-its good score layout as because of its parts management and the 
-integration of reasonable (if not brilliant) tempo tracking, synth 
-plugins, and the like. 
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-> It is all about choices. When mscore is usable and linuxsampler can 
-> play Kontakt libraries I will be able to kick Windows out of my 
-> computer for good. 
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-Well, there is that practical viewpoint. 
- 
-As a user, there is always a time (or many) when what you really want is 
-a direct alternative to an existing program, whether for a different 
-platform, for a lower cost, in an open-source environment or whatever. 
- 
-As a developer, it offends me to imitate proprietary software directly. 
-Rosegarden is a deliberately conservative program that does an awful 
-lot of borrowing from the general classes of track-based sequencers and 
-notation software, but it isn't a knock-off of any single program. 
-Where we've looked at the alternatives, we've done it with a view to 
-trying to come up with something better, or something that fits more 
-with some conceived model for the rest of the program. Even when we've 
-only succeeded in producing something worse, less reliable, more 
-confusing and harder to use, at least we've usually made the honest 
-effort to investigate and understand what we're trying to make. Indeed 
-even if the end result then turned out to be almost indistinguishable 
-from another program, we would still have made it with some integrity. 
- 
-But to set out deliberately to produce and distribute an exact 
-replacement for an existing proprietary program, unless there is a 
-really strong necessity, is not a righteous thing to do. To replace 
-Sibelius with a better program for Linux would be good work. To 
-attempt to clone Sibelius for Linux is a wrong to the creators of 
-Sibelius and offensive to the creative spirit in the programmers doing 
-the work. To do so while claiming that the clone is superior software 
-because it has "open source ethics" is doubly wrong. It would be 
-better to have no program that worked as well, than to have our best 
-program in the field be a cheap duplicate. 
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- 
-Chris 
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